1970 OLDSMOBILE TORONADO"GT" W-34 455/400hp SUPER RARE WITH OWNERS BOOKS! RARE!

For sale: 1970 Oldsmobile Toronado W-34 455/400hp WITH DOCS RARE

Technical specifications

Condition:
Used
Item location:
Phoenix, Arizona, United States
Make:
Oldsmobile
Model:
Toronado
SubModel:
W-34 455/400hp WITH DOCS RARE
Type:
Coupe
Doors:
2
Year:
1970
Mileage:
73,000
VIN:
394870M6058908
Color:
White
Engine size:
455/400hp
Number of cylinders:
8
Transmission:
Automatic
Drivetrain:
Front Wheel Drive
Interior color:
Green
Vehicle Title:
Clear
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Description

73,000 miles

ORIGINAL UNRESTORED 2 OWNER CAR

ORIGINAL BOOKS

OWNED BY FORMER F.B.I OFFICIAL

This gorgeous and rare, ldsmobile Toronado GT is in excellent condition inside and out. This amazing Toronado is equipped with the optional W34 high-performance package. It has its original Rocket 455/400hp V8 engine with automatic transmission and factory air conditioning. The original interior is in showroom-new condition. In its original color of Porcelain White with a beautiful all-original interior. It also has a Factory custom interior package, M/FM radio, ower steering, ower brakes, emote mirror, ower windows, ower seat, ear window defrost and red line tires, oaded with all the options this is a very rare Oldsmobile.

2 owner car, ought new by a FBI agent in October of 1969, nd was kept by original owner until a few yrs ago, t still has FBI badge plaque on rear bumper,,If thiscar could talk i bet it could tell tales,,,

runs and drives like new, rand new redline radials, ully serviced, ce cold A/C, eady to cruise and show!!

FREE SHIPPINGWITHBUY IT NOWONLY!!

CONTINENTAL USA BUYERS!!EXPORT AND OVERSEAS BUYERS WILL GETFREE SHIPPING WITH BUY IT NOW ONLYTO LONG BEACH CALIFORNIA TO THE PORT FOR EXPORT SHIPPINGFEEL FREE TO CALL FOR ANY INFO, 23-764-5897 JOE...SOLD "AS IS",NO WARRANTY OR GUARANTEE EXPRESSED OR GIVEN, ARS BUILT PRIOR TO 1981,, ILES CAN NOT BEVERIFIEDBY CARFAX DUE TO AGE,FEEL FREE TO CALL,INSPECT ANY CAR PRIOR TO BIDDING OR BUYING ASK ALL QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU BID IF YOU HAVE ANY AT ALL,WINNING BIDDER IS THE NEW OWNER,NO RENEGOTIATING AFTER THE END OF AUCTION, S WITH ANY OLDER USED VEHICLE, INOR SIGNS OF USE, EAR, EPAIR,RESTORATION,PARTS REPLACEMENT AND AGE MAY BECOME VISIBLE UNDER CLOSE VISUAL INSPECTION WE CAN NOT BE HELDRESPONSIBLEFOR THESE MINOR ISSUES,WE DO NOT KNOW THE HISTORY ON THE CAR FROM DAY ONE UNLESS NOTED IN LISTING,BUYER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY TAXES,PLATESOR ANY FEES ON VEHICLE IN HIS OR HER OWN STATE AT TIME OF TITLE AND REGISTRATION

Give GM credit.Their designers and engineers smashed the personal luxury car mold twice: first, ith Buick's 1963 Riviera, nd then at Oldsmobile in 1966 with the radically designed Toronado. With regard to the latter, old, lowing bodylines complemented a unit-body chassis with subframe, torsion-bar suspension and front-wheel drive, hich had not been seen in a domestic car in nearly 30 years. Throw in hidden headlamps and wheels a la Cord 810/812, 385hp, 25-cu in 90-degree V-8 and a flat passenger cabin floor, nd it's easy to see why nearly 41,000 were ushered from Lansing that first year.Unfortunately for the division, roduction dropped by nearly half the following year when Cadillac released its own front-wheel drive entry, he Eldorado. Traditional model-year facelifts helped Toronado sales the following years, ut the impact could be deemed minimal in retrospect. Furthermore, platform redesign was slated for 1971, roviding more formal luxury appeal while shifting away from its original, ubtle performance traits.That's not to say efforts were not made to bolster the Toronado's performance underpinnings. For 1968, he division offered the W-34 performance package that added a higher-lift camshaft, arger intake valves and a cold air induction system to the now-standard 455-cu in engine, elping boost output to 400hp. Exhaust cut-outs on the rear bumper accommodated the otherwise standard dual-exhaust system, nd an upgraded Turbo Hydra-Matic 425 automatic transaxle transferred torque to the drive wheels. It was again offered in '69, ans air induction and the special rear bumper. And then there was the Toronado GT of 1970, he subject of this month's Buyer's Guide.In a nutshell, he GT is a W-34 optioned Toronado, gain without the air induction system of 1968, et the exhaust bumper cut-outs had returned. Available on the base and Custom-trimmed models, he W-34 package was now in its third season as a regular production option; however, or all intents and purposes it is technically a one-year-only performer by model name alone. In a sense, t could be considered a corporate competitor to the Riviera GS, et it was never officially touted as such."When new, he Toronado was perceived as too sporty, o by 1970, he body had been toned down, et it was still masculine. Contemporary thinking is that the GT was a bit of a marketing ploy to help boost Toronado sales before the 1971 redesign was introduced," agree Toronado Owners Association members Darwin Falk and Bill Payne, ach of whom will help outline the finer details of the relatively rare performance car, eparating fact from fiction. Although we've mentioned the 1968-'69 W-34 editions, e're instead going to focus on the '70 GT, f which a combined 5,341 (332 in standard trim) were produced, ffering another performance alternative for those who enjoy muscle and luxury.ENGINESAs mentioned, he GT/W-34 package automatically upgraded the standard 4.125 x 4.250-inch bore and stroke, 0.25:1 compression 455-cu.in. engine with performance equipment that boosted output from 375hp @ 4,600 RPM to 400hp @ 4,800 RPM (torque officially slipped from 510-lb ft to 500-lb ft). Although the outside air induction system had been abandoned after 1968, he increase was achieved simply by utilizing larger 2.072-inch intake valves (versus standard 2.00-inch valves) in conjunction with a performance camshaft featuring a higher .0472-inch lift on both the intake and exhaust. It should also be noted that every Toronado uses a low-profile intake manifold in order to provide enough clearance beneath the hood for the single-snorkel air cleaner assembly. Look for engine block code "F" followed by the casting number on the top of the timing chain area and an "E" casting on the lower corner of the cylinder head; if original paperwork is available, ook for the W-34 code.According to Bill and Darwin, he Olds Rocket 455 is exceptionally durable, specially considering the Toronado GT tipped the scales at roughly 4,500 pounds. Tune-up parts and Rochester Quadrajet rebuild kits remain plentiful, s do engine gasket sets. Internals, uch as OEM-style pistons, amshafts and oil pumps, re also obtainable from multiple suppliers. While aftermarket performance parts are available, ost GT owners prefer to maintain factory specs.TRANSMISSIONSAs with other personal luxury cars on the market, nly an automatic transmission was available in the Toronado GT. In this case it was a three-speed Turbo Hydra-Matic 425, front-wheel drive transaxle that uses a number of design attributes from the THM-400 found in many GM intermediate muscle cars of the era. Unlike the THM-425 used in non-GT Toronados, t was specially calibrated and contained a high-stall torque converter. Given the "OM" code, arwin mentions the case should exhibit a "OM" stamp."Durability should not be an issue," asserts Darwin, ffering that, The THM-425 was installed in RVs, ncluding the GMC Motor Coach, ith one minor difference in that the internals spin in the opposite direction. Any experienced transmission shop should be able to rebuild the unit with ease if necessary."Darwin goes on to add, There's a myth that states an auxiliary transmission oil cooler was standard on the GT, ut the reality is that it was optional equipment across the entire Toronado line. As it turns out, ecords indicate that only 421 Toronados combined were equipped as such, o one can imagine that the percentage of GTs ordered with it was quite low."DIFFERENTIALAnother one of the several propagated myths about the Toronado GT is that engineers fitted a special ring-and-pinion gear into the differential portion of the transaxle system to enhance performance. This has since been dispelled by members of the TOA. In fact, rom 1968-'76, very Toronado was equipped with a 3.07:1 gear set. This carried over to the '70 GT, nd, nterestingly, he GMC Motor Coach. The 3.07:1 ratio is commonly referred to as 3.08, ven in factory literature. Again, urability is a non-issue as the entire system had been engineered to contend with the forces enacted upon a front-wheel drive system by a high-torque engine in a heavy car.CHASSISSince its inception, he Toronado combined a lengthy front subframe with a unitized body; however, 970 would prove to be the final year for this arrangement. Bolted to the assembly was an independent front torsion-bar suspension system, ubular hydraulic shocks, n anti-roll bar and power-assisted steering. At the opposite end was a pair of semi-elliptic leaf springs and hydraulic shocks. This chassis setup was also a standard on each GT.The misconception that often surfaces in relation to the chassis is that the GT was automatically equipped with heavy-duty suspension components. "The heavy-duty package was an option on all Toronados, ot standard on the GT. Only a combined total of 583 left the assembly line with the option, o, gain you're looking at a small percentage of GT production," says Bill.BRAKESAlthough the Toronado was initially fitted with drum brakes, t didn't take long for engineers to figure out that the combined factors of power and mass did not bode well under heavy braking. By 1970, ower-assisted front discs were standard equipment used in conjunction with rear drums. Dimensionally, he front rotors measured 10.875 inches in diameter, hile the rear drums were stout 11 x 2 inches.As is the case with most performance cars of this era, E-style replacement equipment can be purchased from a number of generic and Oldsmobile parts suppliers, uch as master cylinders, otors and drums. A common upgrade is the installation of stainless steel brake lines.WHEELS & TIRESLike corporate sibling Riviera, ll Toronados, ncluding the GT, ere fitted with 15 x 6-inch pressed-steel wheels and standard wheel covers emblazoned with the traditional Olds logo. Each wheel was shod with J78-15 bias-ply tires. Two options stand out: the uniquely designed triple-white-stripe tires and the louvered full-wheel discs, he latter of which can be seen on our feature car. Many owners have made the conversion to radial tires for ease of drivability, ith or without a proper 7⁄8-inch-wide whitewall, nd while J78-15 single- and dual-white-stripe bias-plies have been reproduced, o far as we've been able to determine, riple-white-stripe tires have not.BODY & INTERIORThe first generation Toronado never strayed from its original 119-inch wheelbase dimension; however, ts overall length had grown from 211, o just shy of 215 inches by 1970. Visually, he annual model-year refresh provided striking changes. Gone were the split grille and hidden headlamps; exposed quad lamps resided at the outmost edge of the one-piece recessed grille, hich had been narrowed to provide space for running lamps. Positioned between the outer grille surround and the new, lim, ertical chrome bumpers, ach running lamp bezel was actually integrated into the trim, roviding the appearance of three separate vertical lenses. Likewise, he dramatic wheel arches had been toned down, hile the tail panel and taillamp lenses had been updated. With regard to visual identification on the body, small "GT" emblem accompanied the Toronado badge near the leading edge of the hood, s well as the aforementioned inclusion of the dual exhaust cut-outs on the rear bumper.An overwhelming number of Toronados, nd likewise GTs, riginated from the Custom line, eaning more elegant interiors and trim. With a flat floor, any owners stuck with bench seating, aking for a more comfortable ride with a full complement of passengers; however, ucket seats were available for those who preferred a sporty feel. Instrument panels varied little from the previous year, eaturing a litany of warning lamps and a barrel-type speedometer. Power accessories were numerous, ncluding bench seat, indows and deck-lid release, nd air conditioning was available in the GT.Perhaps some of the most widely accepted bits of misinformation regarding the GT have to do with the body and trim, ll of which have been debunked in recent years. This includes the claim that the GT/W-34 was only available on Custom models, r that they were all painted Nugget Gold Metallic. With the former already discussed, t's worth noting that the GT was available in all special and optional paint colors. It is also untrue that the vinyl roof was mandatory, hich may have been prompted by the fact that Toronados of all variations were equipped with the roof covering for what turned out to be 90.9 percent of 1970 production. Similarly, he belief that bucket seats were required in the GT is also false.That vinyl roof, ncidentally, ventually led to rust issues for those who did not maintain the needs of the material; a common malady of virtually all cars of the era that were so equipped. It's advised to inspect the roof carefully before purchase, s well as the base of the A-pillars, round the rear window and around the rear quarter glass, s these are the most problematic areas with regard to rust.RESTORATION & PERFORMANCE PARTSWhile we've discussed the availability of some performance upgrades in general, nd most owners' attitudes towards them, eturning a heavily worn Toronado GT to factory stock condition is fraught with pitfalls for the uninitiated. Body panels are currently not being reproduced at all, hile trim and taillamp lenses have become painfully hard to find, ven used. Clean, ndamaged pieces and the ever-decreasing supply of NOS parts are the only option for these items. A member of the TOA club has been able to fabricate a generic floorpan, ut it is not available commercially. Interior parts and trim are hard to find as well; however, arwin and Bill stated that several parts interchange with other GM makes. For these reasons and others, oining the Toronado club would likely prove beneficial to anyone attempting a restoration on one of these uncommon cars.There is some good news for professional and hobby restorers, like. Many mechanical parts are available, s are electrical components and wiring, eatherstripping and upholstery; although currently, pholstery kits are not available. For performance, he Oldsmobile V-8 is readily enhanced with help from the aftermarket, hough few Toronado owners opt to go this route.EngineAlthough the Rocket 455 had been standard in the Toronado since 1968, he '70 GT automatically received the high-performance edition via the W-34 package. Larger intake valves and a camshaft upgrade boosted output to 400hp; 25 more than the base engine.BrakesWeighing in at nearly 4,500 pounds, oronados had been fitted with power front disc brakes/rear drums as standard equipment before the time the GT became available. OE-style replacement parts for the entire system are plentiful.TransmissionOnly one transmission was offered in the GT: the Turbo Hydra-Matic 425, he designation for the front-drive three-speed automatic transaxle that shares some internal features with the THM-400. The unit in the GT contained a higher stall speed converter; look for the "OM" stamp.InteriorMost GTs were assembled on Custom-trimmed Toronados, hich feature richer interiors. Bench seats were preferred by many, lthough bucket seats were offered. Upholstery is available, hough not as kits, nd several pieces interchange with other GM models.ChassisThe GT shared the standard Toronado's unit-body chassis, engthy front subframe, ndependent front torsion-bar and rear leaf-spring suspension systems. Contrary to propagated myths, heavy-duty suspension upgrade was optional, ot mandated.BodyThough a vinyl roof was not mandatory, oughly 90 percent of all Toronados were assembled with it. While rust can be problematic in a few other areas, oor assembly line prep has led to damaged roof panels on original, nmaintained GTs.Owner's ViewA friend of mine told me about this Toronado GT whose owner wanted to sell it in order to get a 1979 Pontiac Trans Am SE. It was a complete car, nd I was able to negotiate an incredible price. There really weren't any plans for it. The car had previously had some minor body work done from accident damage, nd the body shop had crossed the paint code and resprayed it an ugly shade of green--it was known as "Gumby" for a long time. Not long ago, got a price I could not refuse to have it returned to its factory hue of Ming Jade--a Toronado-only color in '70.Toronados have been under the radar for a long time. The GT, ith a pinnacle of Olds power under the hood, as built for the road; I like to say it just gathers the road when you get on it. The GT handles like no other car I own; you can blow through a corner without any lean, nd no matter how hard you try, t never seems to run out of power.-Jim SchultzWhat to Pay1970 Oldsmobile Toronado GT

Low Average HighCoupe $8,000 $15,500 $24,500Custom Cpe $7,500 $14,000 $23,000

Add: A/C, %. As with any muscle car with low build numbers, t may not be unusual to find asking prices or auction sales results higher than stated here.Parts PricesBrake pad set $40Carpet set $229Door sill plates, air $109Duct panel drain tubes, air $79Fuel pump $69Hood insulation pad $50Ignition switch $37Inner CV boot $50Mirror, utside $65Piston set $388Tune-up kit $60Valve lifters, et $100Water pump $119Weatherstrip, oor, air $90Weatherstrip, oof rail, air $89Club SceneToronado Owners AssociationPO Box 373Hubertus, I 53033-0373www.toronado.orgOldsmobile Club of AmericaPO Box 80318Lansing, I 48908www.oldsclub.org

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